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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2018 8:49 am 
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As the title suggests, I've been having a conversation about supergroups with someone and how they never seem to be all that super once an album comes out. There are a handful of albums that I find interesting and will listen to, but again I don't really feel like they're exceptional at all.

For instance, Them Crooked Vultures is an album I'll listen to a few times a year, but it didn't really grab me and shake me. I love Queens of the Stone Age, Foo Fighters and Led Zeppelin but this collaboration was just interesting, not exceptional IMO.

In your opinion, are there any supergroups who lived up to the hype?

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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2018 9:20 am 
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Eagles?

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Eagles?


Were they really a supergroup though? I mean, Henley, Frey and the original lineup were all part of Linda Ronstadt's backing band for years. They added high profile members later (Joe Walsh, Timothy B. Schmidt) but that's kind of like an established band like Queens of the Stone Age adding Dave Grohl on drums for an album and tour. They were still the Eagles.

I'm thinking more along the lines of bands like Power Station where a couple of members of one group (Duran Duran) split off with members of another group (Robert Palmer) to do a completely different album.

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None that I know of. I'm not an Eagles fan, and even the low end super groups, like Little Village (John Hiatt, Ry Cooder, Nick Lowe, Jim Keltner) who should have been great, put out a completely competent but forgettable album.

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And yet, whenever one is announced, people get excited about it (myself included). I remember in the early 2000's there was a group announced that was made up of members of The Breeders, Steve Jones and some others. I thought it would be great but it was just okay.

Another called Panic Channel was the drummer and guitar player from Jane's Addiction with a couple of other L.A. guys. Other than the first song, it's a drag and even that song is just a by-the-numbers alt-metal song.

The only one I can remember really liking was from the 1980's and it was the Sales brothers who played with Tin Machine, Michael Des Barres and Steve Jones. It was called Chequered Past and they had one good album. Even that isn't great though. It's got a few good songs on it and it's consistent. That's about the best I can say about it.

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Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young are pretty much the definition of a supergroup that lived up to the hype (though admittedly, I'm not a fan myself). You won't find many others, if any at all, that matches them for supergroup success and bona fide respect in the industry.

More recently, Audioslave was better than they had any right to be. I wasn't a big fan, but was still impressed that they managed to make it work at all, much less to develop some big hits and a few solid albums.

But the BEST supergroup?

The Traveling Wilburies. Both of their albums are front-to-back fantastic.

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Hadn't even thought of CSNY or The Traveling Wilburys. I gotta agree, though, The Traveling Wilburys are the best.

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Good call, Shoe! I didn't think about the Wilbury's and you're right. They're the best. CSNY has never been a favorite but Kimfair had a live CD of theirs when I was at Fest and he swore was great.

Funny enough though, I like CSN on their own better than CSNY and I'm a very big Neil Young fan.

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Also, Audioslave I could take or leave. I get what you're saying about them sticking around a while and making decent records but to be honest I was never a huge Rage Against the Machine fan. The change in musical direction wasn't really enough to win me over.

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Dudes of Wrath?

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I liked some of The New Pornographers. Not sure if they're super, but for when they came out, they were fun.


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Traveling Wilburys were the thing that came immediately to mind. And New Pornographers, but calling them a "supergroup" was always tongue-in-cheek.


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New Pornographers were terrific for one album, but yeah, "indie supergroup" is kind of a ... what's the term, like "military intelligence?"

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Agreed on that New Pornographers album. The first one was tremendous but yeah, an indie-supergroup isn't necessarily a supergroup.

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Fuck me! I didn't even think about this group until it just spun up in my shuffle.

Zwan

Billy Corgan and Jimmy Chamberlin (Smashing Pumpkins) Dave Pajo (Slint), Paz Lenchantin (A Perfect Circle) and Matt Sweeney (Chavez). They only put out one album, but as Shoe can attest it's a fucking fantastic album.

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That's a good one! Maybe closer to indie super than super, but way, way underrated all the same. I'm right there with you, Cary, that album is fucking great. It's better than ANYTHING Corgan has done as Smashing Pumpkins in the last 20 years. No exaggeration.

And I don't want to damn it with faint praise with the Pumpkins comparison. It's a legit fantastic rock record. I love it.

Shame that band split so fast. They had tons of great stuff they never recorded or released. Loads of potential there.

But Corgan is a dick.

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I know someone mentioned CSNY above. Another one I didn't think of was Cream. I'm not a huge fan, but still there's no denying that trio was a supergroup and there are people who fall over themselves praising their output.

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What about the Hard Working Americans? I really like the two albums they have put out, there is also The Raconteurs their two albums are really good.

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:) So yeah, I guess the answer to the question is that there are some.

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John Carter wrote:
What about the Hard Working Americans? I really like the two albums they have put out, there is also The Raconteurs their two albums are really good.


How did I forget The Hard Working Americans? I would kind of put them in the minor supergroup status, though.

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I've been listening to Zwan all morning now. After they broke up, a ton of bootleg recordings came out with literally dozens of original songs they never recorded. They were kind of like a supernova in that they wrote a ton of songs and then flamed out over ego issues.

And yes, I'm a fan of the Hard Working Americans also, thanks to Kimfair.

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Shoe wrote:
New Pornographers were terrific for one album, but yeah, "indie supergroup" is kind of a ... what's the term, like "military intelligence?"


Two albums, please. That second one was pretty fucking solid, too.

Cream is the obvious one, and was pretty great, though inconsistent. Blind Faith was great for "Can't Find My Way Home."


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