It is currently Sat Nov 18, 2017 4:32 pm

All times are UTC - 8 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 31 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:01 am 
Offline
Black Hole
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:20 pm
Posts: 9805
Our latest podcast dips its toe into September of 1991 -- and when you look at what was released that month, it's pretty insane:

GET IT / LISTEN TO IT HERE:
http://www.nerdoutwithme.com/ep-21-sept ... ns-n-roses

Landmark records by:

Nirvana
Pearl Jam
Metallica
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Guns n' Roses
A Tribe Called Quest
Hole

Plus new records by:

Pixies
Slowdive
Ween
Swervedriver
The Smithereens
Dire Straights
Garth Brooks
Naughty By Nature
Ozzy Osbourne
Uncle Tupelo
Sarah McLachlan
Rush
Oingo Boingo
Primal Scream
Kyuss
Orbital
Van Morrison
The Cult
Tin Machine


Plus others.

Can anyone think of a bigger, more impressive month for new music? if there is one, I'm thinking possibly something from the late '60s.

_________________
"Hitler had a pretty good idea there." - Eric


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:11 am 
Offline
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:20 pm
Posts: 7548
I had a friend in college who would NOT stop listening to that Rush album (I'm assuming it was the roll the bones one, otherwise I'm way off).


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:19 am 
Offline
Black Hole
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:20 pm
Posts: 9805
Yep, Roll the Bones is the one from Sept. '91. MTV had that single on repeat for about a week, which was surprising because Rush was so not cool at that point.

_________________
"Hitler had a pretty good idea there." - Eric


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 4:16 am 
Offline
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2010 5:07 pm
Posts: 4720
I haven't listened to any of those albums, so no, you're wrong.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:25 am 
Offline
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:20 pm
Posts: 7548
brian wrote:
I haven't listened to any of those albums, so no, you're wrong.

Exactly. A better headline would have been "American-born Gen X-er believes 1991 had some great music, especially in September of that year"

Personally, I can think of a few months in 1992 or 1993 that had better releases, but these were electronic, not in the top 40 - and I don't think anyone else would agree with me.

From a pop culture perspective, I'm thinking there has to be a month in 1984 (around September or October) that had a ton of amazing releases.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:45 am 
Offline
Black Hole
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:20 pm
Posts: 9805
Chris Knight wrote:
From a pop culture perspective, I'm thinking there has to be a month in 1984 (around September or October) that had a ton of amazing releases.

September 1984 is so/so. October is pretty strong, though, and November isn't bad. For sure a strong time for music:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_in_m ... 3_December

Anyway, say what you want about Sept. '91, but a number of records that became culturally significant dropped that autumn. If it was merely a matter of taste I could probably dig up a month when a lot of indie or noise records I liked came out at once, but it's not just about that. These are records that came to define an entire era of music and that for countless millions are part of their soundtrack of their lives.

_________________
"Hitler had a pretty good idea there." - Eric


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:58 am 
Offline
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:20 pm
Posts: 7548
Yes, to American-born generation Xers. I'm sure Baby Boomers and Millenials would very much disagree with you on this.

I mean, to a lot people, Hootie and the Blowfish defined their youth. And then they all became Trump voters.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:45 am 
Offline
Black Hole
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:20 pm
Posts: 9805
Millenials have no say in the manner. Baby Boomers were acknowledged above. They can probably pull out an equally good month some time from the late 1960s.

Some good music isn't enough. We're talking stands the test of time, generation defining, changes culture music.

_________________
"Hitler had a pretty good idea there." - Eric


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 11:04 am 
Offline
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2010 12:06 am
Posts: 5423
Location: Portland, Oregooooooooo
"The greatest month in music history is whenever I was young and impressionable and the media was catering to my demographic." - everyone, ever.

_________________
...fuck you, JFelix, fuck you into the ground. - Ericubus


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 11:34 am 
Offline
Black Hole
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:20 pm
Posts: 9805
Sure, yeah.

Except I was an adult in September 1991, so no, that's not what I'm talking about and it's not where this is coming from and it's what the damn post is about.

Jesus hell, you people are amazing.

Maybe tomorrow we can complain that the board is dead again. :thumbs:

_________________
"Hitler had a pretty good idea there." - Eric


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 2:52 pm 
Offline
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:20 pm
Posts: 7548
You won't find any stinkin' confirmation bias in this place... :lol:

Seriously, you're about my age, which means you were BARELY an adult in 1991, and music released that year would have left a massive impression on you.

Let's see...you listed an album by Dire Straits. Their worst album. That band had three historic albums, all released in the early-to-mid 80s. You included that particular release to pad your results, and that stinks.

One more point. Nevermind came out in September 1991, but it didn't become a big seller until 4 months later. So, why does September matter at all in the context of it being generation defining?

Band popularity, to the general public, is defined by a song, not an album. I suspect most people that consider Nirvana's 2nd album a high point in their life, can't name a song other than Smells Like Teen Spirit. Pearl Jam is remembered for Jeremy, and Mother Love Bone isn't remembered at all.

If you want to sound smart, find a week in 1991 (or whenever) when every song in the top 10 was amaze-balls.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:09 pm 
Offline
Black Hole
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:20 pm
Posts: 9805
Chris Knight wrote:
One more point. Nevermind came out in September 1991, but it didn't become a big seller until 4 months later. So, why does September matter at all in the context of it being generation defining?

It's kind of self-evident, isn't it? Because it's interesting that they came out at the same time.
Quote:
Seriously, you're about my age, which means you were BARELY an adult in 1991, and music released that year would have left a massive impression on you.

Music leaves a massive, lasting impression on me on a regular basis. I'm not a nostalgic listener who keeps returning to my youth. I never stop looking for something new to get excited by. Every year, there are a handful of records that leave a huge and lasting impression on me. So ...


Anyway, the whole damn point of this thread was for people to come up with interesting points in time when a lot of really big, important and lasting records came out all at once. You know, because that might be interesting. There's even a fucking question mark in the goddamn thread subject - 'cause it's meant to be a launching point to talk about music. It's not a goddamn STATEMENT, it's a launching point for people to come up with other times when a lot of timeless stuff dropped all at once.

Whatever.

_________________
"Hitler had a pretty good idea there." - Eric


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:27 pm 
Offline
HMFIC
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2010 7:30 pm
Posts: 4272
Location: Detroit
Video kills all joy.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:52 pm 
Offline
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:20 pm
Posts: 7548
I didn't own a single album you listed in your original post, and so you alienated me right from the get-go with the "Hey, this shit was cool, so isn't it the best month ever?"

If you take the whole of 1991, and remove the garbage (and there was a lot - like Genesis' Can't Dance piece of shit), I end up with a handful of albums that defined me:

1. Front 242 - Tyranny For you. This album changed me, as much as it changed industrial music. This was an era where 242, Nitzer Ebb, Alan Wilder, and NiN were constantly one-upping themselves. This album is pure heaven, and although the band kept going for many years, nothing they did before or after came close to this perfect...thing.

2. Blur - Leisure. I just started my 2nd year at college, and a friend of mine dragged me into an audio booth to listen to this. Fucking amazing album.

3. St. Etienne - Foxbase Beta. Goddamn, this was so much fun to edit videos to. I'm pretty sure Massive Attack put out stuff in 1991 as well.

4. Seal's Crazy. Not the album, but the 12" of this song, with the crap load of remixes. Again, for someone needing music to edit to, the production on this was amazing.

5. Electronic - Pet Shop Boys, New Order and The Smiths all on one album. It wasn't as legendary as everyone hyped it up to be, but certainly fun to listen to.

1992 was a far bigger year for me, musically (when Techno finally took off in the US).


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 4:52 pm 
Offline
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2010 5:07 pm
Posts: 4720
Only one good album comes out every 5 years so I'm not sure how to engage with you Shoe, sorry.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:11 pm 
Offline
HMFIC
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2010 7:30 pm
Posts: 4272
Location: Detroit
Chris Knight wrote:
2. Blur - Leisure. I just started my 2nd year at college, and a friend of mine dragged me into an audio booth to listen to this. Fucking amazing album.


The bass player in one of the bands I used to be in was a huge Blur fan. I've always been more of a casual one. I acknowledge that they made great albums, but I don't throw them on all that much.

Chris Knight wrote:
3. St. Etienne - Foxbase Beta. Goddamn, this was so much fun to edit videos to. I'm pretty sure Massive Attack put out stuff in 1991 as well.


I've got the St. Etienne greatest hits that looks like Neapolitan ice cream. I throw it on occasionally. Only song I love is their cover of Neil Young's "Only Love Can Break Your Heart."

Massive Attack, I love. But while I think most people would say their 1991 release, Blue Lines was fighting it out with Mezzanine for their best album, I like Protection. That's like top all-time album finalist material for me.

Chris Knight wrote:
4. Seal's Crazy. Not the album, but the 12" of this song, with the crap load of remixes. Again, for someone needing music to edit to, the production on this was amazing.


I had the CD single, which I'm sure was less extensive, but I remember liking more than one version.

I'm just happy to find common ground with Chris Knight, who's usually wrong about everything but technical/gear questions.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:18 pm 
Offline
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:20 pm
Posts: 7548
:thumbs:

Any thread that both depresses Shoe, and makes Eric happy, is a good one.

Massive Attack was always a what-the-hell-am-I-listening-to band that grew on me pretty fast...I especially like their later 2007 album, Heligoland. Very moody.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:18 pm 
Offline
HMFIC
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2010 7:30 pm
Posts: 4272
Location: Detroit
Though the 70s were the greatest decade of music history. And while I haven't looked at the whole decade yet, November 1970 was a pretty good month:

American Beauty Grateful Dead -
Bryter Layter Nick Drake -
The Man Who Sold The World David Bowie -
No Dice Badfinger US
That's the Way It Is Elvis Presley Soundtrack
Barrett Syd Barrett -
His Band and the Street Choir Van Morrison -
Loaded The Velvet Underground -
Naturally Three Dog Night -
Greatest Hits Sly and the Family Stone Compilation
Stephen Stills Stephen Stills -
Tea for the Tillerman Cat Stevens -
All Things Must Pass George Harrison -
Lola Versus Powerman and the Moneygoround, Part One The Kinks -
13 The Doors Compilation
I Walk the Line Johnny Cash Soundtrack
The Isaac Hayes Movement Isaac Hayes -
Kraftwerk Kraftwerk -
Layla and Other Assorted Love Songs Derek and the Dominos -
Starsailor Tim Buckley -
...To Be Continued Isaac Hayes -
The Worst of Jefferson Airplane Jefferson Airplane Compilation


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:31 pm 
Offline
HMFIC
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2010 7:30 pm
Posts: 4272
Location: Detroit
...and November '71:

Madman Across the Water Elton John -
The Stylistics The Stylistics -
Led Zeppelin IV Led Zeppelin aka Led Zeppelin IV
Nursery Cryme Genesis -
Bob Dylan's Greatest Hits Vol. II Bob Dylan Compilation + new and unreleased material
Farther Along The Byrds -
Live-Evil Miles Davis -
A Nod Is As Good As a Wink... to a Blind Horse Faces -
There's a Riot Goin' On Sly & the Family Stone -
Black Moses Isaac Hayes -
Bonnie Raitt Bonnie Raitt -
The Low Spark of High Heeled Boys Traffic -
Nilsson Schmilsson Harry Nilsson -
'Nuff Said Ike & Tina Turner -
There's Gotta Be a Change Albert Collins -

I'm suspecting that Novembers are good months.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:34 pm 
Offline
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:20 pm
Posts: 7548
well, it's why has-been artists put out Christmas albums that month...people buy a lot of shit for other people that time of year. Lots of compilation albums and box sets come out that month as well (see: INXS' huge Kick re-release box set coming out in a few weeks).


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:48 pm 
Offline
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2010 5:07 pm
Posts: 4720
Eric picked the best month so far.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:48 pm 
Offline
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2010 5:07 pm
Posts: 4720
not the shoe eric, the other eric. but not ubus eric.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:02 pm 
Offline
Black Hole
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:20 pm
Posts: 9805
Eric wrote:
November 1970

This one is really damn good. Eject all the greatest hits and compilations -- they don't count -- but otherwise, there's major stuff here. For these alone it's pretty damn impressive:

American Beauty Grateful Dead -
Bryter Layter Nick Drake -
The Man Who Sold The World David Bowie -
No Dice Badfinger US -
Loaded The Velvet Underground -
Naturally Three Dog Night -
Tea for the Tillerman Cat Stevens -
All Things Must Pass George Harrison -
Lola Versus Powerman and the Moneygoround, Part One The Kinks -
The Isaac Hayes Movement Isaac Hayes -
Kraftwerk Kraftwerk -
Layla and Other Assorted Love Songs Derek and the Dominos -


Those are all pretty vital records, with at least a few -- the Kraftwerk, the Harrison, the Dead -- essential for any collection, and the Bowie, DatD, and the VU either essential or right on the cusp.

The Nov. 71 is eh.

_________________
"Hitler had a pretty good idea there." - Eric


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:07 pm 
Offline
HMFIC
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2010 7:30 pm
Posts: 4272
Location: Detroit
Why no love for Van Morrison? From Astral Weeks to It's Too Late to Stop Now, the guy could do no wrong.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:15 pm 
Offline
HMFIC
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2010 7:30 pm
Posts: 4272
Location: Detroit
February '72:
Root Down Jimmy Smith -
Eat a Peach The Allman Brothers Band -
Harvest Neil Young -
Manfred Mann's Earth Band Manfred Mann's Earth Band -
Something/Anything? Todd Rundgren
Pink Moon Nick Drake -

...and not much else, so it's not really a contender. But there are some strong albums in there, just not quite enough of them.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:16 pm 
Offline
Black Hole
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:20 pm
Posts: 9805
I love Van Morrison, Astral Weeks in particular, I just think that '70 album isn't really on the same plane as some of the others listed and wouldn't consider it an essential.

It's like the Bowie. The Man Who Sold ... is a great record, but to me, at least, he has a few others that are bigger landmarks than that one.

Does't mean it's not great, though.

_________________
"Hitler had a pretty good idea there." - Eric


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 3:44 pm 
Offline
HMFIC
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2010 7:30 pm
Posts: 4272
Location: Detroit
March 1976:
Destroyer Kiss -
I Want You Marvin Gaye -
Takin' It to the Streets The Doobie Brothers -
The Sun Sessions Elvis Presley Recorded 1954–'55
Wings at the Speed of Sound Wings -
Amigos Santana -
Jailbreak Thin Lizzy -
Presence Led Zeppelin -
American Pastime Three Dog Night -
Illegal Stills Stephen Stills -
Love & Understanding Kool & The Gang -
Silk Degrees Boz Scaggs -


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 3:47 pm 
Offline
HMFIC
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2010 7:30 pm
Posts: 4272
Location: Detroit
...or April 1976:
2112 Rush -
Live Bullet Bob Seger & The Silver Bullet Band Live
Blow Your Face Out The J. Geils Band Live
Black and Blue The Rolling Stones -
Ramones Ramones -

Seriously, the Seger album alone seals it.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 4:00 pm 
Offline
HMFIC
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2010 7:30 pm
Posts: 4272
Location: Detroit
November 1978:
Midnight Oil Midnight Oil
Outlandos d'Amour The Police
Wings Greatest Wings Compilation
Give 'Em Enough Rope The Clash
Jazz Queen
The Scream Siouxsie and the Banshees
Shakedown Street Grateful Dead
Motor Booty Affair Parliament
Briefcase Full of Blues The Blues Brothers Live
Greatest Hits Steely Dan Compilation
Backless Eric Clapton
Crazy Moon Crazy Horse
The Gambler Kenny Rogers
Greatest Hits Barry Manilow Compilation
Greatest Hits 1974–78 Steve Miller Band Compilation
Move It On Over George Thorogood & The Destroyers


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 4:06 pm 
Offline
HMFIC
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2010 7:30 pm
Posts: 4272
Location: Detroit
October 1979:
Reggatta de Blanc The Police
I'm the Man Joe Jackson
Quadrophenia The Who Soundtrack
Greatest Hits, Vol. 1 Rod Stewart Compilation
Tusk Fleetwood Mac
Damn the Torpedoes Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers
One Step Beyond... Madness
Prince Prince
The Specials The Specials
Stevie Wonder's Journey Through "The Secret Life of Plants" Stevie Wonder
Bee Gees Greatest Bee Gees Compilation
Reproduction The Human League


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 8:53 pm 
Offline
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:20 pm
Posts: 7548
Those two early Human League albums with the Heaven 17 guys are so cool, even with Phil Oakey's utterly insane lyrics.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 31 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 8 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group