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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2016 8:22 am 
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I finally got my son into The Hobbit, so we have been reading this...
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Thank you, Eric, for the Secret Santa gift.

A few years ago I had showed them the animated film, and it scared him, so he didn't want anything to do with it. A few days ago he was talking about giant spiders in something, so I mentioned that I knew of a book that has giant spiders in part of it, and that was all it took. He had just wound up the Charlie Higson portion of the Young James Bond series, and was about to start the third book in John Grisham's Theodore Boone series (The Accused), but we snuck this in and he is loving it. He is up to the part right after Smaug is killed and I told him there just may be a sequel, his eyes lit up. I told him it is much different, a bit more mature, and the details about the 3 books. Now I have to buy a copy. They have this pocket sized leather-ette bond set at Barnes and Noble. I just have to see if the font size will be OK for him.

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That's great, Ericubus! Very cool that he finally got into it.

My daughter started an AP English class this year and she's going to be reading some things I can't wait to hear her thoughts on. She read The Most Dangerous Game and The Ransom of Red Chief a few weeks ago. Just finished up Sir Gawain and The Green Knight last week. Coming up are Rip Van Winkle and Dr. Jekyll and Mister Hyde. She also has an option to do an elective on gothic horror literature and she's thinking about taking it in the second semester.

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...elective on gothic horror literature and she's thinking about taking it in the second semester.


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Thank you, Eric, for the Secret Santa gift.


Welcome. Glad he's enjoying it. I had that edition once, but it got lost in a move.

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Now I have to buy a copy. They have this pocket sized leather-ette bond set at Barnes and Noble. I just have to see if the font size will be OK for him.


I've got the 50th anniversary edition:
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Were I buying copies for a kid to read, though, I might look at a used bookstore for the old Ballantine editions. Those were everywhere, and I'd bet there's a few still kicking around.


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Just finished up Sir Gawain and The Green Knight last week.


Any idea which translation?


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Just finished up Sir Gawain and The Green Knight last week.


Any idea which translation?


She told me last night but I'm having trouble remembering. I believe it was Marie Barroff. She said that she felt like the translator "Gave up near the end" because she ended up having to look up and annotate "three times as many" words in the last 300 lines than the prior 2200 or so.

When I was recuperating from my hospital stay last year I read a bunch of the Arthurian legends and the eBook I bought has Sir Gawain in it but I never got to that one. I was going to read it at the same time as her but the class moved so fast, I wasn't able to do it.

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That one seems odd in comparison to the other, since a lot of the tropes of the lessons that are familiar from Mallory were set long after it was written. But it's cool to read something from that long ago for precisely that reason.

Tolkien did a translation that got published a few years back. His was actually in verse; I've read others that put it into prose, which I don't like. I can't say definitively that it loses the flavor, since I can't read Old English and therefore don't really know what the flavor is, but I have to assume that's the case.


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We ended up getting the leather-ette set, very nice. I would have liked a built in ribbon bookmark, but it still works.

It can be had for under $27.

We are currently reading The Fellowship of the Ring, and he is 100% into it. Which makes for some great breakfast discussions.

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Jack, at not quite 7, is not old enough for Lord of the Rings yet. Eventually.


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Who reads it?

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Haven't kept up. Not sure of the several preceding this, but the absolute last one finished was:
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Short, for Dickens, and lacking much of his ironic humor. Glad to have read it, but I don't think I'm likely to revisit.

Started, but have not finished:
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I'm wondering if I've exhausted my tolerance for Tolkien scholarship. The Annotated Hobbit, I'd recommend to anyone, as it's just the book with footnotes that somebody could ignore on a first reading and explore if interested. The Lord of the Rings: A Reader's Companion, I'd recommend to anybody who read the first recommendation and enjoyed the footnotes, since it's basically footnotes in a volume separate from the main book.

This one, on the other hand, compares manuscript text to published text, with commentary, and Tolkien seems to have gotten a lot of the flavor and details of the final version into even the first draft. The commentary is interesting, though, and I'll certainly stick through this volume at least. Could go either way. I think I picked this up (having ordered it a while ago) largely in an attempt to retreat from reality post-election, and given that, it's very possible that I'll make it through Christopher Tolkien's entire History of Middle-Earth. But we'll see.


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I enjoyed The History of the Hobbit, but even more so than the HOME series, it's one you need to skim. As you point out, the texts didn't actually change that much from draft to draft, so the real meat is in the commentary.

One worthwhile bit is in the second volume, where he publishes Tolkien's aborted attempted at a total rewrite circa 1960 or so. His goal was to bring The Hobbit in line with Lord of the Rings in tone and detail. It even included a visit to Bree. Very interesting to imagine would could have been.

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I knew he did that, and am looking forward to getting to that point, but at this point, I'm only up to Beorn. Or Medwed.


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An exhaustive account of both men's careers with a focus on their "rivalry" and collaborations, this book was a mixed blessing. It's extremely long (over 800 pages) and the author tends to dictate the plots of certain films as he's elaborating on the production. Less of that and you could easily cut 100 pages and for anyone who's going to read this thing, it's all redundant. I've seen all those films so I don't need a recap.

The plus side is that the author also gives short overviews of other actor's careers who appeared in the films with Karloff and Lugosi, so here and there you'll get 10 - 15 pages on Lionel Atwill, Lon Chaney Jr., Colin Clive, Dwight Frye, Val Lewton and many more. If you love the old Universal films, it's a great (if somewhat depressing on the Lugosi side) read.

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I am amazed that John Carter can read a book a day. Granted, some of these are graphic novels but still, I barely have time to read a chapter a night and most nights I fall asleep in the middle of reading.

Good for you JC. I wish I could read as quickly as you do.

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I am amazed that John Carter can read a book a day. Granted, some of these are graphic novels but still, I barely have time to read a chapter a night and most nights I fall asleep in the middle of reading.

Good for you JC. I wish I could read as quickly as you do.


I read more than one book at a time and sometimes I wrap them up all at the same time. I also read a lot at night because I have trouble sleeping sometimes.

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