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Author:  Eric [ Fri Jul 11, 2014 12:54 pm ]
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Don't know if this is "I made it," really, since I won't have "made it" until Monday or so, but I'm going on the Bayview Port Huron to Mackinac race this weekend, and in the unlikely event that you want to check on my progress, you could do so here. I'm on the shore course, in the Cruising A class, on a boat called FreeWay.

Author:  Ericubus [ Fri Jul 11, 2014 2:28 pm ]
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I use that map to help determine my sniper position. Thank you.

Author:  Shoe [ Fri Jul 11, 2014 5:15 pm ]
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Do good shit, boat man.

Author:  Shoe [ Fri Jul 11, 2014 5:15 pm ]
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Also, if you're ever here on a weekend, you can race. Our circle is involved in Catboat races on the bay. Crew members always needed.

Author:  Eric [ Wed Jul 16, 2014 5:57 pm ]
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Only single-sailed boat I've ever sailed is a Hobie Cat, one time on vacation. Can't say how good I'd be at it. But I'd gladly demonstrate how to drink beer after the race.

Author:  Shoe [ Fri Jul 18, 2014 6:33 pm ]
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That's what they're racing.

Author:  Shoe [ Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:34 pm ]
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I'm on a Hobie Cat race crew tomorrow.

Usually I just drink beer and let the other folks do all the work. Guess I can't do that this time.

Author:  Eric [ Wed Jul 23, 2014 8:24 pm ]
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Several times during the winter, I get together with the boat crew to discuss strategy. I explain to my wife each time that it's necessary for us to get together to discuss strategy, and we do. I'm going to share with you the very strategic way we approach the races, and let you know what we decide on in these strategy meetings (before we go on to drinking):

Go fast, in the direction of the finish line.

Author:  Shoe [ Thu Jul 24, 2014 7:48 pm ]
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I was wrong, they're not Hobie Cats, they're B Cats.

Anyway, good race tonight. Looks like I'll be crewing every Thursday from here on in.

Author:  Eric [ Fri Jul 25, 2014 5:25 pm ]
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One hull or two?

If they're the sort I'm thinking of, I can't imagine "crew." Maybe fifteen feet long, with two rudders and one sail? That's a one-man boat.

Author:  Shoe [ Fri Jul 25, 2014 6:11 pm ]
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One hull. Not sure of the footage, but I think it's between 22' and 26', probably leaning lower. Single mast, cabin (albeit tight) with two small bunks. It is absolutely sailable by a single person, but it'd be slightly hectic when racing. They usually do a crew of 2, I think. I was 3rd, so stretching it, but I actually had stuff to do while the other two were working, too.

The closest examples I can find with a quick Google are these, but they aren't necessarily even the same make, just the general gist:

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Sort of a blend between these.

I thought I had good pics of the one we sail, but I can't be arsed to search through the archives.

I do have this brief video that maybe gives you a better idea of what it is:


Author:  Eric [ Sat Jul 26, 2014 8:13 am ]
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Watched the video. Is that boat wooden? How old?

Like I said, I've sailed a single-sailed boat exactly once. On the Mac race, we had a crew of 5 on-deck for a 42 foot sloop: a helmsman, one to trim the main (usually me, when I was awake), two on the foresail, and a foredeck guy for sail changes. On Tuesdays, we've usually got eight to ten guys on the boat, adding a tactician, another foredeck guy, and a halyard guy. But I can't see how many of those jobs would transfer to a catboat; you're not changing sails, and you can't have more than one guy trimming the single sail you've got, can you? What were you doing?

Went out last Tuesday. Races haven't started back up yet as boats trickle back down from Mackinac, so we went out on one of the other crew members' cruising boats. Least work I've ever done on a sailboat. We set the sails and turned on the autopilot, then drank beer.

Next race is this Tuesday. We won the spring series of six races, despite doing horribly in the Mac race (which is its own race, unrelated to the series of evening races). This will be the first in the summer series.

Author:  Eric [ Sun Jul 12, 2015 2:44 pm ]
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Eric wrote:
Don't know if this is "I made it," really, since I won't have "made it" until Monday or so, but I'm going on the Bayview Port Huron to Mackinac race this weekend, and in the unlikely event that you want to check on my progress, you could do so here. I'm on the shore course, in the Cruising A class, on a boat called FreeWay.


Doing this race again next Saturday. Tracking, if anybody's interested, is at the same link. Same boat. Class is currently listed as Division II (shore course), Class M (cruising), though they may possibly change designations when the tracking software goes live. The boat is still FreeWay, in any case, and you shouldn't need more than that.

Author:  Eric [ Thu Jul 23, 2015 5:42 pm ]
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Placed 7th of 17 boats in class, which is better than last year. Did my best at the awards ceremony, since we didn't have to pick up a flag or anything like that, to make Bells regret sponsoring the race and providing free beer. I think I at least gave them qualms about it.

Author:  Shoe [ Sun Jul 26, 2015 1:28 pm ]
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Was supposed to crew my first race of the year today, but it was called due to wind. The horrible, unsettling plan B was to sit at the yacht club overlooking the bay drinking pitchers other people were buying.

Terrible day.

Now I'm home, so I'm going to get some jet ski time in.

Author:  Eric [ Sun Jul 26, 2015 2:43 pm ]
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Put a restored Dyer Dhow in the water today (the OB&C's father, not me, is the one into restoring old boats), and we had so little wind we could barely get it moving.

Next race is Tuesday. Not a big, overnight race. Just a 7-mile evening thing.

Author:  Shoe [ Tue Aug 04, 2015 7:01 pm ]
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I don't crew on a big, cool boat like Eric, but it's fun.

Nonetheless, no sailing for me yet this year. It has fallen through each time due to wind.

Getting my own tiny little Boston Whaler rigged up soon for the first time since before Sandy and will start using it regularly. Looking forward to learning how to sail on my own. Living on the water, it's stupid to not do water stuff (if you can afford it)(which I can't).

Author:  Kimfair [ Wed Aug 05, 2015 7:42 am ]
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Remember, the term boat means either Bust Out Another Thousand, or a hole in the water that you pour money into.

Author:  Shoe [ Thu Aug 06, 2015 12:19 pm ]
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They are a ridiculous money pit. There are no boats in my future.

There is sailing, though. One of those dudes is out for the season with an injury, so starting Sunday I am officially competing.

That sucks. I have only sailed once this year - last night. I am not ready!

Author:  Shoe [ Sun Aug 09, 2015 6:46 pm ]
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We won.

Author:  Eric [ Mon Aug 10, 2015 9:34 am ]
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Congratulations. Always nice to win. This the catboat you've (I believe) raced on before?

Boat I race on came in 2nd last Tuesday after having forfeited the week before because the boat wasn't ready after the Mac race (read: filled with liquor bottles from the guys who brought it back; can't wait to retire and take over that job). Same boat, which is usually our toughest competitor, took first in each of those. So we'd have to do pretty well in the three remaining races to take first overall again (though we got first in the spring series).

Words spoken a number of times on Mackinac Island: "Coming in seventh in a yacht race is a first-world problem." I was kind of pissed, until I thought of it in that light.

Author:  Eric [ Fri Jul 15, 2016 10:30 am ]
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Mackinac race starts tomorrow. Still on Freeway. Tracking here if anybody wants to see how we're doing.

Author:  caryc [ Mon Jul 18, 2016 1:20 pm ]
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Just tried to track you but looks like you already finished.

Author:  Eric [ Wed Jul 20, 2016 5:56 pm ]
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Finished about 1am on Monday, after hitting a storm 5 miles from the finish line with 40 knot winds, hail, and zero visibility. Reefed the main and rolled in most of the jib (which is to say "we greatly reduced sail area to slow the boat down") and we were still heeled over sideways and screaming ahead without any idea what was in front of us. Steering by GPS because we could see nothing. For about 15 minutes, I thought I might die.

Three days of drinking on the island, though, convinced me to come back next year.

Author:  Eric [ Wed Jul 20, 2016 5:58 pm ]
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Oh, and finished 6th of 23 in the class. No flag.

Author:  Shoe [ Sun Aug 14, 2016 2:47 pm ]
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Amazing race today.

Fleet of six, not huge, but we're one point from being in first on the season, so it's important.

They give us two-lap triangle course and then in. The wind is weird as fuck. We hit the first leg on a totally different course than everyone else, open up a big lead, then in the final 150 yards we hit a wall and everyone catches up. It's tight, but we're in the lead. Cool.

First loop around the triangle we maintain the lead, though it's close as fuck. Crazy close.

We get a bit outside the mark halfway through lap two, horns go off, and oh shit, they're changing the course! Suddenly we are doing something way different than before, going far out into the bay to a spot we never race to.

The race tightens up. When going to that far out mark we slip into second. No shame, the best sailor on the bay is a ringer for the other boat, so it's not surprising that it got ahead of us.

From there, it's a straight run of about a mile or two back into the finish.

Four boats saddle up and are as close as you can be. For the quarter mile stretch leading into the final turn, there were literally three of us side by side by side, all perfectly even, trying to not bump one another (just feet apart) while jockeying for position, and the lead was just ten yards ahead. Tense.

We fought in that last stretch, rules and wind cleared some room for us on the final turn, and we ended up with a hard-fought second.

Awesome race. Fun day.

:thumbs:

I wish we had won, because it would have catapulted us into the lead for the year, but there are four races to go. We can still take it.

Author:  Eric [ Sun Aug 14, 2016 2:53 pm ]
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The boat that was our main competition for Tuesday night races switched classes. It's gotten a bit boring. We won the spring series and are far enough ahead in the summer, with two races left, that if we win on Tuesday, we may stay on the pier and drink next Tuesday, as there'd be no chance of anyone beating us if we don't race, but if we do, we could get hit with a protest and be unable to throw out that score (one of the provisions of the race club).

Good to hear your races are competitive. Not that I'll mind too terribly much. Drinking on a pier is an easy cross to bear.

Author:  Shoe [ Sun Aug 14, 2016 3:00 pm ]
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Eric wrote:
Drinking on a pier is an easy cross to bear.

Indeed it is. It's why I race.

Author:  Ericubus [ Tue Aug 16, 2016 7:53 am ]
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This all sound like lots of fun, and a great way for old out-of-shape dudes to be 'sporty'. Very jealous.

Author:  Eric [ Thu Aug 18, 2016 7:30 pm ]
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It's not my call, but I don't think we have to race next week. Came in first on Tuesday despite racing shorthanded and the fact that I was doing foredeck, which is something I've done once before in my life.

For those who care (probably few) and don't know (might even include Shoe, if he's still racing catboats), that means I was perched up on the bow of the boat while we were racing, helping the jib or spinnaker (the sails in front of the boat, as opposed to the mainsail) around during tacks and jibes and putting sails up and down. Didn't even fuck anything up, which shocked the hell out of me.

Other than grinding, it's one of the more athletic things you can do in a sailboat race. Which should put the lie to Ericubus's "out-of-shape dudes" comment.

I'm in my prime, Ericubus.

In my prime.

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Author:  Ericubus [ Fri Aug 19, 2016 7:00 am ]
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So you were fat when you were younger, OK. Yes, I am projecting, I really need to get in shape and have 0 motivation right now.

But, when sailing, when the call comes to slow down for something, do you ever get the urge to scream out, "Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!" Because I would, and it would be hard to fight that urge.

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Author:  Eric [ Fri Aug 19, 2016 10:19 am ]
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That's been shouted. Along with "ramming speed!" Mostly when somebody who, by the rules, should give way to us fails to do so.

Author:  Shoe [ Fri Aug 19, 2016 10:28 am ]
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So far past his prime there isn't even a mathematical term for it.

Author:  Ericubus [ Fri Aug 19, 2016 1:20 pm ]
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Oh, come on, he's barely a lot past his prime.

Author:  Eric [ Fri Aug 19, 2016 2:28 pm ]
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In my prime.

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